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Trust Us. We’re the “Experts”

I have been reading Dumbing Us Downby John Taylor Gatto, an excellent book written by a former public school teacher for 30 years and New York State teacher of the year.

One of the “lessons” Mr. Gatto claims schools teach is something I had recently noticed is a prevalent attitude these days. I even pointed this out on my Facebook fan page, and then I read about it in his book. (Isn’t it funny how you think a new thought and then you see evidence of that thought in various places?)

The lesson I am talking about is never, no never, trust your own instincts or research. ALWAYS rely on what the experts tell you should be done.

There is never really even a need to think anything through for yourself, because there is someone (probably paid by your tax dollars) who has done studies, and made charts, and drawn all the right conclusions for you.

Never mind that they get end of the year bonuses if they can convince you to agree with their conclusions. Just do what the experts say and don’t rock the boat. Okay, dear?

Even if that means we let the government tell us what to eat and drink.

“But it’s for our own good!” I can hear someone crying.

The thing is, I would like to decide for myself what is my own good and the good of my children.

I don’t want to let someone else decide that I can’t take my perfectly healthy newborn home from the hospital or that I should vaccinate my daughters against sexually transmitted diseases. I can do the research, consider the facts, weigh the risks, and make the decision for myself.

Now, certainly I am not saying that I have no need for experts. When my daughter needs an emergency appendectomy, I am all for the experts stepping in and doing what they have trained for. When the family goes to our favorite dentist, I want her to use her expertise in treating us.

What I don’t want is for my right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness to be infringed upon by “experts” who believe I am too obtuse to consider a thing and decide for myself which course to take.

What about you? Are you more likely to take experts at their word? Or do you research for yourself?

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  1. I do my own research on everything regarding my children. If I have to have an ‘expert’ involved I make sure I have information and data to present my case then fight it hard for what I feel is right. We are coming down to the days where our rights are starting to be infringed upon. Pretty scarey if you ask me.

  2. Totally there with you! I too have been reading…A LOT! Including Gatto. You should also read “The Underground History of American Education” by the same author. For those who have never heard of him or anyone else espousing the same ideas, it has the tendency to sound like a conspiracy theory. Until you start realizing that it fits what you’ve been seeing for a long time. Another good one is “Why Johnny Can’t Read” and ” Why Johnny Still Can’t Read”. Different author but you can google it. Throw in a little reading Dr. Orton (sp?) and you can see why we have such a huge educational problem. Watching David Barton’s American Heritage series will leave you feeling ever so cheated on your won education as well.

    I am also rather tired of my doctors treating me like I have dementia when I tell them I’m more interested in finding the cause of a problem then throwing a pharmecutical at the symptom. Especially when it tooks them 5 YEARS! to determine that I was severly anemic. How exactly are we supposed to trust the “experts” again? Experts in what!?

  3. So many of our institutions have adopted a “parent/child” relationship rather than an “adult/adult” relationship.

    When I go to the doctor’s office with my child it is pretty much set up like the DOCTOR is the real parent and I am the child and I get heavily “scolded and guilted with scare tactics” for not doing what doc says. Or I get the “good girl” stamp of approval if I do do what doc says. I resent this deeply!!

    The gov’t is becoming more parent/child with its citizens as well.

    I think things should be set up as they are when I go to apply for a home loan. I can ask a bunch of questions, get the mortgage broker’s explanations and opinions, ask more questions, and then make my dang decision! In this relationship I’m getting some expert advice, but I’m not treated like a non-thinking child. It is respected that the decision is mine and I am free to seek council elsewhere or simply wait. This is an adult/adult interaction.

  4. Dumbing Us Down was such a good book. It totally reaffirmed one of the reasons why I am homeschooling our children.

    As for your question Smockity: I ask the experts for advice but I make my own choice.

    For years I have taken the “experts” (be it pastors, other parents, government, etc.) opinions/ beliefs as gospel until I realized that I am an adult and capable of thinking like one! It has taken me a long time to get out from underneath all the brainwashing but by God’s grace I now use the brain He gave me! :)

    I am all for gathering the facts and data from aforementioned experts, but I have to decide for myself what course of action that information will determine.

  5. I totally agree with you. That is one of my reasons for choosing to homeschool. My husband was telling me the other day that a student in California was punished by a teacher for saying “bless you”. The reason the teacher said was a disruption. He has also gotten suspended for two days for taking his bible to school. REALLY???? Since when has students rights to freely express themselves been taken away??? Anyway, yeah I don’t trust much of any “expert” ideas. Unless they can prove it to me I will not agree with them.

  6. I agree! I think we live in a culture of parents that think they need the experts’ help to raise and educate their children, too. Parents no longer feel qualified (never mind called) to truly raise their own children.

    I read Gatto’s “Weapons of Mass Instruction” and he went into a lot of this issue, too. What a great book that was.

    Thanks for a timely post. You are right: when you are thinking thought, God does put evidence of them right in your path. :-)

  7. “Experts” are especially not to be trusted when they eschew from 3he government with its corrupted crony capitalism that is involved in CDC. Recommendations….

    Best example is perhaps the hep B vaccine for infants –for which the high risk groups are drug users and prostitutes.

  8. Thanks for posting this and for the comments, Ijust added several books to read on my amazon wishlist.

  9. The only expert in my life is God. If a human is an expert, it’s because they accidentally re-spoke God’s wisdom. Kwim?

    I’m so glad that I’ve never accepted the status quo. I think it’s because I saw how my mother’s life and health and relationships suffered when she didn’t listen to her instincts. Experts mucked things up for her so badly. She raised me to question things.

  10. I used to listen to the experts on everything. If they said I needed to be induced, then I was induced. If they said baby needed shots, I let them give the shots. Then I had a homebirth (no insurance for the hospital, paying for the midwife out of pocket was much cheaper) and slowly began to see that the “experts” are not always right. So now I question EVERYTHING! lol I do my own research, I pray, my husband and I come to our decisions together, and most of the time it’s the opposite of what the experts say. So be it. As long as we have the peace of the Lord, we’re okay with that. : )

  11. I have plans to get a copy of that book. I have heard it is very good. I agree with you that we should be allowed to make decisions regarding what is best for our families. I read your post about your experience at the hospital a couple of days ago and I can only imagine how angry it made you as it angered me just to read that someone had that experience.

  12. I hadn’t heard of that book but I’ll have to keep my eyes out for it now. My Dr. also tends to be a bit pushy about the vaccinations we don’t want to get (mainly the chicken pox one) but she finally let it rest. One of the big reasons we wanted to start homeschooling was so that we could encourage our kids more to research for themselves, not just go with what “they” say.

    • stephanie says:

      I had the chicken pox in high school (I was out of school for two weeks and came *this* close to having to be in the hospital) and I STILL argued with the pediatrician about giving it to my kids.

  13. I agree with you. Have you heard about the group who wanted to make circumcision illegal in California? No matter how we might feel about it, it isn’t our right to tell others how to care for their sons! Luckily the Gov. 86′d this one.

  14. I’m a researcher. I like to know everything, then pray, then decide for myself. It never ceases to amaze me that there is usually an “expert” that wants to tell me I’m not educated enough to make these decisions.

  15. Yes, we like to research for ourselves for many, many things. That’s a large part of the reason that we homeschool. We trust what our research (and the Bible!) tells us.

    I do think that many with in our conservative, homeschooling community take it to the extreme — always being suspicious of doctors, etc. One of our sons was born with multiple birth defects requiring 6 major and many minor surgeries so we’ve been thankful for those experts many times over the years. I appreciate you pointing out that we do need to balance this wisely and with discretion!

  16. I loved Weapons of Mass Instruction by Gatto. Also note that his magnum opus, “underground history” is on his website for free!
    Another great online and free book is The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America by Charlotte Iserbyt. She details decade by decade, how central planners moved to shift our public school system from liberal arts to communist workforce training, which it is today.

    Yes, the experts telling us how to live is part of the technocratic dictatorship envisioned by George Bernard Shaw, Col. House, and the rest of the early progressives. They started a chain of events where you had to be “licensed” in order to be “qualified” to do a job. This created a compartmentalized society that would turn their thinking over to “experts”. They control certain industries through “liscensing”, they’ll strip you of your right to work in that field if they so choose.

  17. Yes! Your posts always resonate with something I am mulling over in my life! I will have to get this book. Two related anecdotes:

    Stumbled upon a PBS show on Prohibition last night and it said that one of the reasons prohibition was successful is that they implemented a public school education campaign. Three times a week children learned of the dangers of alcohol, such as: even one drink would cause your liver to fail, and there was always the chance of spontaneous combustion — yep, you could burst into blue flames!! No matter how you feel about alcohol consumption, it is appalling that children were being blatantly LIED to to promote a political agenda.

    Secondly, we live in California — a state notorious for using public education to promote political agendas (and for failing miserably to teach basic skills). This summer the legislature passed a law requiring the explicit teaching of gay/lesbian/homosexual history. Also, sex education (which can begin as early as kindergarten) must include accepting information on alternative family lifestyles. So they read books like My Two Daddies and stuff.

  18. I take experts like politicians with a grain of salt and consider a double vodka to boot sometimes. Personally, I like to think something then maybe talk to my friends and family about it and if it is a do or die thing I might google an expert on the subject. As I have found most experts as questionable as a politician I prefer to work through most issues without there “expert” help.

  19. One of the BIG reasons, of which there are many, that my kids are NOT in public school. Even as a child that was in public school myself, I was unable to maintain the status quo. I questioned my teachers, I showed them the research, I argued for facts not rote memorization. in short I was either loved or hated, or in some cases both
    If I couldn’t keep my mouth shut and just fill in the bubble for my own education, how can I do so for my kids? My stress levels are off the chart just considering public school and my kids. I’d write a blog article on why not to public school and why almost anything is a better option, but my mom might read my blog and she takes it as a personal attack, and well I love my mother.:D

    Lastly, my dad did a paper in college in the early 70′s about how the experts where predicting the end of the world as we know it to happen about 30 years into the future, every 10 year or so. He documented the newspaper articles, from the mid 1800′s to the 1970′s showing this, still happening:D

  20. I am totally for doing the research yourself. I think that is one do it yourself project that no parent should delegate. Our society is indeed training everyone, that there is no longer a need to make your own decisions, just follow protocol. That is kind of scary.

    I am a RN, but strongly lean towards healthy food and other preventative practices versus all of the other “necessary” stuff around nowadays. Vaccines sure are one area where they just want you to follow the protocol without ever thinking for yourself, and it is very hard to find objective information about the. Dr. Sears Vaccine Book is the one resource I have found to be fairly objective. He tells you all the risks vs. benefits, ingredients, etc. and then encourages you to make your own decisions (for each vaccine) for your own family. He still recommends most of them, but at least he is honest about the risks vs benefits and if there is any scary ingredients in certain vaccine. It was in that book that I learned that the chicken pox vaccine contains fetal lung tissue, so for us that one is totally never going to be an option.

  21. I think it’s great to do your own research, but I do think that “experts” (not talking about self-f described experts here, but peer-respected people with much training/certification/experience in their field) are experts for a reason. I would, for example, in matters of biblical context and interpretation,, probably trust an actual priest or minister who had been to seminary and had a masters in theology over some random guy with a blog and a bible, or a scientist who has done much peer-reviewed research on a particular topic than someone who heard the opposite from “a friend of a friend” or a forwarded e-mail in their inbox.
    I think, the biggest problems arise when people assume that just because they’re experts in THEIR field, it makes them experts in everyone’s field.
    For example, most MDs (unless they have a special interest and have sought out additional classes/certifications, etc.) have had surprisingly little training in regards to food/nutrition (I think it’s something like just one class in med school), and yet, people assume because someone is a doctor they’re the be-all, end all of nutrition advice. Now, I will absolutely trust my general practitioner’s opinion about many things (though I will still probably read medical journals myself and get a second or third opinion because that’s just the kind of firecracker I am!) but if I want nutritional advice, I will go to my dear friend that has his PHD in nutrition.
    Good research generally involves consulting experts, but first, I think we should find out what makes them an expert. My mother has a masters in education and 40+ years of teaching experience. You bet your boots I will consult her about any educational decisions for my future children, but would I call her first if my roof was leaking? Probably not any more than I’d call a roofer to ask his opinion on which school my kids should attend.

  22. I spend countless hours reading all kinds of research on childrearing. I decide what to take and what to leave behind based on the needs of my children and family. Unfortunately, those of us who do/are able to do this are in the minority. Sometimes, and maybe even often, it is important for the government to step in to protect the many, many children in our country whose parents cannot or will not make decisions that are in the children’s best interest. I think it is important for parents to be able to make decisions that they feel will benefit their children and families, but we cannot forget the welfare of the children who are not so lucky.

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